comparable area, new york to london, fax county to oxford, any comparable count, the united states with any comparable county, in europe or most parts of asia, you will find a tremendous difference between gun crimes and those gun crimes are not only associated with massive and unrestricted gun ownership but are caused by -- take another country, for example, israel, where obviously people need to have guns, there's terrorism. and there's almost no gun crime at all. in order to get a gun in israel, you have to have a 60-day waiting period. you have to take a mental health exam. you got to go to shooting ranges and pass a test. you can only get 50 bullets and that's a lifetime supply. there are enormous restrictions in that country that obviously needs a law. it's cultural, it's that part of the culture is caring more about winning over our children than -- >> what i find extraordinary is the callousness of politicians in america. i don't understand why some of them aren't prepared to literally stick their necks out and say, i've had enough of this. there are so few of them prepared to take